$800 was a great price.. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. I have a 94 Trapper in 357 Magnum that I rechambered to 357 Maximum. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. There'll be no market for it. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. Apparently it was a regular thing. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. 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I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. . If you don't there are some good old black powder era straight wall cases that you could utilize to make a real deer hunting longer range rifle. They only made these two years. barrel and (2) additional 12rd magazines. *We Never share your email without your permission. I might have read your post incorrectly but I live in occupied Ca and I have a Rossi 92 (1892 clone) and a Taurus 605 both in .38sp/.357. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Get one batch of 360 brass from Starline for ammo to be loaded hot. Got a lot of positive comments on it. Nobody cared about the AR-15. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post It worked well in T/C barrels with bullets over 158 grains, and as near-max loads are usually compressed, it eliminated propellant position issues. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. And if you do it right, .38 Special or .357 Mag is an incredibly cheap round to reload, with brass that lasts forever and makes a fine alternative to .22LR when plinking ammo is hard to find. The Lil Gun and AA1680 are max loads from my searching tho I've seen several claim you can't get enough AA1680 in the case to overload it. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. . If I didnt have to deal with CAs onerous gun registration laws, Id otherwise be glad to offer someone one of my Glock/AR sets for a .357 Mag revolver + rifle. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) No such thing as a perfect caliber, but .357 magnum and its sister the .357sig is about as close as one can get. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. So its a one-two-three punch. 1 single-shot rifle in .357 Magnum, extra rifles without the CHP markings were offered through employee sales. 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Item Number: 534196137. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! Show Only with Pictures First, I was a guy who dropped the idea, except for a special-purpose handload. But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. It's important to note that when using cast bullets, you will need to use gas checks since the velocities reached with .357 Remington Maximum may cause problems. I sight in for 75 yards which lets me go out 125 yards with pretty much a dead on hold. The regular Marlin 1894C is priced at around $700. It brings old school to the new school and shoots like a dream. . Awesome. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. Subscriber Services. This is because revolvers allow a certain amount of gas to escape as the bullet jumps from the cylinder to the forcing cone, meaning lost pressure. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. I sold my 1980s Marlin 357 in 1996 for 450 to a guy who would not buy a new Marlin with a safety button. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. Relevant to what? A broken case was stuck in the chamber and a bullet a ways down the barrel. I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. Take a lever action over an AR every day. At pressures in the 40,000-psi range, they helped avoid primer flowback that can tie up a break-action firearm. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon . I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. I would think it would beat the .357 Maximum, honestly. A . It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. Proof-fired it and it stood up. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. You are using an out of date browser. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. I can recall a conversation with John Taffin, a fellow gunwriter of deserved great reputation. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Latest: Arima-bob A moment ago Southern California Fishing Reports B What boat less than 30ft can take a 3' @ 6-7 head sea Latest: Bottom Dragger 1 minute ago Boating Discussion Stripping old rods Latest: nefarious235 2 minutes ago Fishing Rod Building Forum has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. I was looking for a 357 trapper at Dons gun in Indy in the early 90s. Risking twice that? It was sweet. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE For Sale from: Intrepid Shooting Sports | Positive feedback: 98% View | Verified Seller | 1551 Completed Sales View Sellers Items SOLD - $299.00 Shipping: $20.00 (or FREE in-store pick up!) Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. on January 02, 2020: Recently had mcCullough arms Valley Grand, Al. The .357 Rem. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. Just ask! 44 Mag is much more forgiving. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. I use handguns for everyday carry. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Sorry, there are no results in your area. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. And they repeat that statement in the new book about Samuel Colt. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. You do want to make sure your rounds are flatnose, hollowpoint or LeverEvolution in a tube magazine. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post The original factory loading was a relatively fragile 158-grain JHP similar to those Remington loaded in the .357 Magnum. The company would sell you all you wanted for ten bucks apiece, but a gun that tried to cut itself in half was doomed to failure. My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. Long guns get in the way. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. I dont live in big bear country. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. The pre-lawyer Rossi 92s are nice guns. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. Midsouth Shooters can supply you with your pistol and rifle ammunition, as well as all of your shooting and reloading supplies. . Here are the features to watch out for. . As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? The results are: . Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45. . Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! Lite recoil and is deadly. For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. Mark Penrod is one. 357/38 is the one of the easiest. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was way past the time Henry made a side loading gate Lever action rifle. It came back looking like new. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. This is the showpiece among Winchesters 1873 model range, and it had better be with a price tag at around $1,800. (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). Description. Not all rifles need to be used to kill commies. It is the perfect .357 Max rifle bullet. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. Dan Wesson guns had easily-replaceable barrels and came with an extra in .357 Maximum. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post Trust me. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. I did it some years back when Indiana got new deer hunting regulations. The one that went directly back to gun store was likely 2018 or 2019 but was still new in box. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! Now Rechambering Henry Single Shot .357 Magnum Rifles! 1/ picking up brass at this range is not required, only the reloaders typically pick it up. So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). Email Mike at mike@357maximum.net or call 541 956 6938. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Show Only Non-Guns. Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. $2.92. Working range would be 50-70 yards. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. I really am not trying to get a caliber war started but, I think the .357 mag is about the perfect handgun round. Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). If you want a lever gun for your wall and occasional shooting, good luck doing better. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. KBCraig, have you tried buying primers recently? This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. The .357 Maximum was initially chambered in the Ruger Blackhawk in 1983 and was for a time adopted by other handgun manufactures. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. 4" Barrel. The one i have now has bllard rifling which is accurate with jacketed or lead bullets. 8,125. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. Its an entry-level model MSRP is $972, youll pay about $200 less retail but the rifle comes tapped for a scope or rail if so desired.